www.panic-anixety.com Is “PURE O” a form of OCD or another form of anxiety symptom? What are these aggressive, sexual and violent thoughts? How are they formed? What can you do about them? PURE O is often thought to be a form of OCD but Charles Linden explains why it is so different and what to do about it. http
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@fazelinae anxiety disorders aren’t caused by low Seratonin levels, depression is. Depression and anxiety disorders are as different as body odor and dandruff! Depression is a clinical condition caused by changes in bodily chemicals, I agree, however, anxiety disorder is a behavioral condition caused by environment (and a proposed, genetic predisposition – which I question). Anxiety disorders CANNOT be cured through medication… SSRI use is not curative. Charles
@TheRey4you alcohol is a stimulant but, after recovery, we have found that most anxious people don’t want to drink too much. The occasional drink is fine!
Continued from below: This may then give rise to anxiety symptoms, which may not have been there previously, however, anxiety MUST have been present before, despite it not creating the more visible/perceivable common symptoms. Charles
@insaneelaine85 you say that anxiety doesn’t cause your OCD but your thoughts can cause anxiety. Trust me… psycho-physiology dictates that in order for the ‘what if’ thoughts which cause the OCD/Pure O to be created, the anxiety response MUST be activated. These what if thoughts area activated in order for the senses to accurately assess REAL threat in your environment but, in the absence of REAL threat, it focuses on your personal obsessions, whatever they may be. Continued…
@lynagy20 why do you believe it will take so long? Because some doctor told you so? I cured a young Asian girl of OCD after 4 years in 2 hours… how, we just switched off the anxiety. Skeptical as you may be, I can only tell my truth. OCD and Pure O aren’t anxiety disorders, they are symptoms of high anxiety. Charles
I find this frustrating. I believe you think that it’s not OCD because of your experience. it may be misdiagnosed for some people.. I’m not sure. I have pure O, I do not suffer from inappropriate thoughts but from an Obsession to go through memories, find problems and a Compulsion to go through every minuscule detail to “solve” and completely understand these thoughts. These compulsions can cause anxiety. Not the other way around. ugh, I had to read through this 5 times before posting.
Ugh the worst time of my life is when I started having bad intrusive thoughts about God and other people, also dealing with anxiety attacks, numbness in the body, constipation, being irritable and depressed, I just wanted to sleep alot and not talk to anyone and I still have that, I just refuse to take meds cause of all the bad side effects, I’ve been on them for a while but then they stopped working and make the problem worse. Its just not a fun situation to be in.
Check out the book “Obsessive Compulsive Disorder Demystified” by Cheryl Carmin. I have OCD centered around harm. And I do mental compulsions. They are just as real as physical compulsions.
Harm OCD can be “Pure O”. I do mental compulsions. I spell words in my head. I have OCD. It is not just anxiety.
Hey Charles,
I am currently seeking treatment as a pure o under Dr. Steven Phillipson’s team. I’ve been doing treatment for a little over a month and it has been going well I feel. I was just curious what exactly are your treatment methods. I must admit I am a little skeptical to hear that you overcame your intrusive thoughts within a couple of days, mainly because I know for my personal situation it will take much longer from now. Thanks.
It’s caused by a low serotonin levels or chemical imbalance. All mental illnesses can be caused by brain damage, trauma, or chemical imbalances.
So much of what I suffer some is undoubtedly induced by anxiety disorder, but so much of what I sense feels as if it is something much more menacing.
Any advice or insights? (I intend to purchase your program, by the way.)
Dear Charles,
To put it succinctly, I suffer from obtrusive thoughts which concern absurd notions (for example, I worry that I might be living in some sort of unreal world that I can never escape), which generates an unbelievable level of anxiety. I also worry about stabbing myself or leaping to my death from the top of a tall edifice (I can no longer stand by a ledge). And, addtionally, I feel cut off from myself, like I am some sort of personality-less entity.
Safety seeking behaviours are powerful and intrusive but 100% curable; we’ve proved that many thousands of times. Take care. Charles
I disagree that the subconscious rumination is ‘aimed at’ anything though, I just think it is simply another extension of ‘what if’ safety seeking’ behaviours typical of all anxiety sufferers; it serves no purpose UNLESS a REAL threat is present and it addresses those directly in the flight or fight response.
I MUST make these videos based on COMMON BELIEFS, otherwise they become far too confusing for the average person – I am sure you understand that.
Whilst I agree with your explanation from a psychological perspective 100%, my video was created to fall in line with the common definitions of OCD and Pure O which say that the difference is distinguished by the absence in PHYSICAL compulsions.
Pure O sufferers PLEASE READ! I don’t agree with the emphasis on the distinction between Pure O and OCD. You say that Pure O is not a type of OCD because there are no physical displays of compulsive behaviour. But compulsions can be performed cognitively! Constant rumination is a cognitive compulsion aimed at neutralising inappropriate / irrational obsessions. E.g., going through every minute detail of a past experience is a cognitive ‘checking’ behaviour to reduce anxiety about the experience.
Thank Charles for this video I really thought I was going crazy an I thought I was the only one having these problems. Now I just need to learn how to control my anxiety.
but why do we get sexual offensive and horrible type of thoughts?
Your preset levels of morality and spirituality should suffice! We are trying to remove INAPPROPRIATE anxiety NOT your appropriate emotions and reactions. Removing your inappropriate anxiety will simply return you to your ‘birth preset’. Charles
I’ve always had high levels of anxiety that interfere with my life; I put this down to a general panic disorder of unspecified form. But, dating someone with OCD, I did some research into the condition and it seems a more probable cause ; I thought for a while I was going schizophrenic with all the internal dialogue. I know the ‘cure’ is to not care about my religion & sexuality but i don’t want to not care about my health (what if something IS wrong?) or morality (what if i DO hurt someone?).
Hi Charles, I’m 14 and a diagnosed sufferer of Pure O or HOCD in other terms.
Basically what you’re telling us is that we need to change our way of thinking in order to remove the thoughts?
my daughter of 8 has just developed this pure o , after watching this it allmakes sence, now i can start helping her
thanks
maximuspookie, you have to ask yourself if you are doing everything correctly.. all of the pillars need to be erected with not a single one ignored or done halfway. I even wrote it out and put it on my bedroom wall when I was curing myself. Whenever in doubt, always ask yourself if you are doing everything. I know it might take time and effort, but this is about the only thing it takes. It took me about 6 months, and I was REALLY BAD, but eventually it erased it all.